Through the floor subframe connectors: I beam vs 2x3x0.120

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Through the floor subframe connectors: I beam vs 2x3x0.120

#1 Post by 96Mustang460cid » Tue May 12, 2009 1:32 pm

I was watching Dave's DVD's when something popped into my head...

2"x3"x0.120" rectangular tubing weighs ~3.9 lbs/ft and has an second moment of area of 1.42 in^4.

In contrast, S3x5.7 I beam weighs 5.7 lbs/ft, but has a second moment of area of 2.52 in^4.

It weighs 46% more, but is 77% stronger. I spent a few minutes looking for the smallest I, W, ect beam and the S3x5.7 is what I found. If something smaller is available, it seems like it would be a good option.

Is the 2x3 considered adequate or is this an area that could benefit from additional strength? I understand that the I beam is not as rigid in torsion as the 2x3, but isn't cross bracing recommended anyways?

Just a thought :).

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Re: Through the floor subframe connectors: I beam vs 2x3x0.120

#2 Post by John_Heard » Wed May 13, 2009 6:20 am

I haven't seen square tube frame connectors bent, I'd have to assume they are adequate for the job.

However dare to be different - I Beam would certainly be something unique :scratch:

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Re: Through the floor subframe connectors: I beam vs 2x3x0.120

#3 Post by supernova » Wed May 13, 2009 4:37 pm

I-beams are not ment to be twisted which is what happens to the frame connectors and or the frame itself. I have 2x3x.120 sq. tubing through the floor. The only way to be strong enough. I-beams twist! out of all the years of being around drag racing I would have thought if I-beams were better then that would be the norm. Not so. Do yourself a favor and stick with the norm. :thumb:
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#4 Post by John_Heard » Wed May 13, 2009 4:44 pm

Shhh dang it, those mustangs need the extra weight!!! :twisted:

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#5 Post by supernova » Wed May 13, 2009 9:25 pm

Oh crap! sorry John. Stangs do need more weight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smt003 :smt003 :smt003 :smt003
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#6 Post by John_Heard » Thu May 14, 2009 7:18 am

Just messing with ya Mike... :smt003

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Re: Through the floor subframe connectors: I beam vs 2x3x0.120

#7 Post by 96Mustang460cid » Mon May 18, 2009 8:01 am

Thanks for your input guys!

Have a good day!
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