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24ft trailer

#1 Post by silvanova » Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:16 pm

Looking at a vintage 24' ft enclosed. Its cheap but only drawback is the light 3500lb axles. any of you guys have these? Had any problems? Gona haul a 3500lb nova in it THanks
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Re: 24ft trailer

#2 Post by rich » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:19 pm

whats the trailer weigh 3500 car plus trailer weight minus total weight equals ??? should be good for 7000 with a dual axle

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#3 Post by silvanova » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:42 pm

rich wrote:whats the trailer weigh 3500 car plus trailer weight minus total weight equals ??? should be good for 7000 with a dual axle
I know that. Just wanting to know if anyone else is using a trailer like this.
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#4 Post by wikd69 » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:23 pm

silvanova wrote:
rich wrote:whats the trailer weigh 3500 car plus trailer weight minus total weight equals ??? should be good for 7000 with a dual axle
I know that. Just wanting to know if anyone else is using a trailer like this.
What year / brand / make is the trailer and does it use torsion bar suspension or leaf springs ?

I have a 94 Pace Shadow, 24' enclosed drop ramp, dual axle / torsion bar suspension, supposedly good to 10K lbs.

The only gripe I have is the fact that the torsion bar suspension eats tires if you run too fast or hit too much rough road on the highway. I found (ask me how) that I get the best performance running at no more than 63 or 64 mph on the freeway, loaded, empty or in-between. Any faster than that and the tires start getting hot, the bands/cords bunch up and you'll likely end up making use of one of the multiple spares you learn to carry with you <g>.

I once spent a really really long three day holiday weekend in Gallup, NM, (not on purpose, btw) waiting for the tire shop to open so I could buy another pair of tires for the damn thing. I was thrilled.

So, poll others to see what their experience has been with walking beam and/or torsion bar suspensions. Maybe I'm the only one who's had these sorts of problems.

Hope this helps.

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#5 Post by wikd69 » Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:39 pm

I really need to quit hanging out here. This place is bad for my health and financial state.

I just found this on the web: http://www.trailershopper.com/page-17018.html

And here's another site with more pix of the goober: http://www.rentztrailers.com/Rentz-LivingQuarters.html

And no, I'm not gonna buy it, but could you imagine having this beauty to drag your hotrod around with ? I'd prolly never go home :smt003
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Re: 24ft trailer

#6 Post by vegaracer » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:42 am

We have that same trailer but in a 50 ft, not as nice as you think. On the 24 ft, i would go to heavier axles but I like overkill.
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#7 Post by bracketracer » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:01 am

IMO you need a trailer with 5000 lb axles. By the time you get all the stuff in there that
you need to have you will be way over the max weight for that trailer for sure..

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#8 Post by chpcamaro » Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:23 am

mine has 2 3500lb axles and has been great
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Re: 24ft trailer

#9 Post by 69firebird » Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:15 am

i have a 96 pace with 3500lb axles and 10k leaf springs and i pull a 3500 lb car. this was a "great deal" trailer that i bought used. i put new tires on it when i got it. it tows great for me but if i had to go out and order/buy a new trailer it would have at least 5k axles in it. watch how much stuff you put in it and try to get the best weight rating tires you can. they will be the first thing to go if you overload it. good luck! :D

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#10 Post by John_Heard » Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:10 am

X100 on the heavier axles. It's very easy to overload even on a 24. Most of the time you won't notice it or have problems with tires. But once summer hits and road temps are 130+ you'll get sick and tired of blowing out tires. My next enclosed will have heavy axles/wheels/tires, maybe even tri-axle.

If all you're ever going to haul is the car they are fine. But stuff a generator, several tool boxes, spares, tents, water, jack/s, etc. the weight adds up fast.

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#11 Post by wikd69 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:26 pm

John_Heard wrote:X100 on the heavier axles. It's very easy to overload even on a 24. Most of the time you won't notice it or have problems with tires. But once summer hits and road temps are 130+ you'll get sick and tired of blowing out tires. My next enclosed will have heavy axles/wheels/tires, maybe even tri-axle.

If all you're ever going to haul is the car they are fine. But stuff a generator, several tool boxes, spares, tents, water, jack/s, etc. the weight adds up fast.
Back in 2000 we relocated from Dallas back to the West Coast and I used my 24 foot Pace with my F250 4wd to move us. Took *three* trips. Gads. I got sick of sitting in that seat, staring at freeway.

Anyway, I ran the loaded pickup and trailer across the scales at a truck stop and it weighed just under 21,000 lbs total. Dunno how much weight I had in the trailer but it was a *bunch*. Ate a couple of tires on that trip and spent a long weekend stranded in Gallup, NM waiting for Les Schwab to open up. The experience taught me a couple of things: Don't overload the trailer and never travel with less than 2 spares.
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#12 Post by Craig W. » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:15 pm

I've eaten a bunch of tires on the three enclosed trailers I've had. One was a 20', one 24' and my current trailer is a 26'. 3500# axles on all three trailers. Right now, I'm having good luck with Carlisle D rated tires. They are overloaded, but they are dealing with it well.

Had terrible luck with Goodyear Marathon and some off brand trailer tires. They would either pop or the inner edge of thread would get chewed up in short order.
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#13 Post by wikd69 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:25 pm

Craig W. wrote:I've eaten a bunch of tires on the three enclosed trailers I've had. One was a 20', one 24' and my current trailer is a 26'. 3500# axles on all three trailers. Right now, I'm having good luck with Carlisle D rated tires. They are overloaded, but they are dealing with it well.

Had terrible luck with Goodyear Marathon and some off brand trailer tires. They would either pop or the inner edge of thread would get chewed up in short order.
yeah, 10-4 on the Marathons. I usually have the cords start bunching up in the sidewalls, the tires get hot and hand-grenade at speed...
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#14 Post by BracketNova » Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:36 pm

Great...my new pace has those marathons on it. You guys are making me nervous :?
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#15 Post by wikd69 » Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:50 pm

spaz109 wrote:Great...my new pace has those marathons on it. You guys are making me nervous :?
What I found that helps:

Keep an eye on your air pressure and your speed down - I found I needed to keep my speed below 65 when pulling the trailer, Helps keep your tires alive. My 2 cents
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Blown 427 BBC, TH400 w/Brake, Back-Half Ladderbar
Narrowed 12-Bolt, 4.10 Gears, Spool, Moser 33 Spline

http://www.marsh-racing.com/harrys_camaro-1.htm

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