This is the part I hate!
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This is the part I hate!
"The new car blues! We all have them. And I hate it.
I've had the motor in and out a few times, the trans in and out a few times, and now the rear end has to come back out......
Here's the deal,
I set up the rear end ( spring purches ) with the stock monoleaf springs. Pinion angle was right were it needed to be. I did not know that changing springs and nothing else would change the pinion angle. I changed only the springs with the Calvert Split Mono's. Not only did it change the pinion angle it also sided loaded the driver side spring. There is more to a leaf spring set up than just installing them.
I called Calverts and talked John about it and he said thair springs have a differant arch to them and would change the angle. He told my I would have to remove the old purches and reset up the angle with new purches. He also said he would feel my pain with my and sending me his new HD purches free of charge to help out. John Calvert has alway been a great guy. I am greatful for any help I can get!
The bad thing is I still have to fix it.
That's my story of the "NEW CAR BLUES"
I've had the motor in and out a few times, the trans in and out a few times, and now the rear end has to come back out......
Here's the deal,
I set up the rear end ( spring purches ) with the stock monoleaf springs. Pinion angle was right were it needed to be. I did not know that changing springs and nothing else would change the pinion angle. I changed only the springs with the Calvert Split Mono's. Not only did it change the pinion angle it also sided loaded the driver side spring. There is more to a leaf spring set up than just installing them.
I called Calverts and talked John about it and he said thair springs have a differant arch to them and would change the angle. He told my I would have to remove the old purches and reset up the angle with new purches. He also said he would feel my pain with my and sending me his new HD purches free of charge to help out. John Calvert has alway been a great guy. I am greatful for any help I can get!
The bad thing is I still have to fix it.
That's my story of the "NEW CAR BLUES"
Blackhoodmafia!!!!
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
- Bruce69Camaro
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Re: This is the part I hate!
Sorry buddy and I have to say it, another reason to buy a Camaro.....but I'm sure it's safe to say that you'll have this issue figured out in no time and off to the race track to break in that new motor.
Calverts customer service is great
Good luck.
Bruce
Calverts customer service is great
Good luck.
Bruce
Those who think they know it all have no way of finding out they don't.........
Re: This is the part I hate!
????????????????????Bruce69Camaro wrote:Sorry buddy and I have to say it, another reason to buy a Camaro.....but I'm sure it's safe to say that you'll have this issue figured out in no time and off to the race track to break in that new motor.
Calverts customer service is great
Good luck.
Bruce
Why would someone want an inferior car with the same issues .
Re: This is the part I hate!
Hey Jason,
it's the Nova vs Camaro thing so Bruce is just picking at me for being a Nova owner. What it boiles down to is the Camaro's are out number here on D/S and so a rivalry between the two has formed with Nova's in the lead and Camaro's draging behind WAY behind.
It realy doesn't have anything to do with the issue I started post for. It's just Bruce being a Camaro owner.
it's the Nova vs Camaro thing so Bruce is just picking at me for being a Nova owner. What it boiles down to is the Camaro's are out number here on D/S and so a rivalry between the two has formed with Nova's in the lead and Camaro's draging behind WAY behind.
It realy doesn't have anything to do with the issue I started post for. It's just Bruce being a Camaro owner.
Blackhoodmafia!!!!
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
- gearjammer
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Re: This is the part I hate!
Hey bud I fully understand as I did the same thing but the good part is a few hotttt hours and it will be all done.
Good luck
PS: I miss my Nova
Good luck
PS: I miss my Nova
Phil aka Gearjammer
JPR Racing
1972 Nova
Drag Radial
JPR Racing
1972 Nova
Drag Radial
Re: This is the part I hate!
true never seen this with a camaro must be a nova thing
i couldn't help myself sorry to hear that chris dam i thought you were on your way to the track soon after talking on the phone i was all excited for you well this is just a small step back tho not to bad could of been way worse but we all hate when crap happens grrrrrrrr
i couldn't help myself sorry to hear that chris dam i thought you were on your way to the track soon after talking on the phone i was all excited for you well this is just a small step back tho not to bad could of been way worse but we all hate when crap happens grrrrrrrr
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- BracketNova
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Re: This is the part I hate!
So...bad idea to use shims then? I also have those springs, if I measured correctly I have nearly 8 degrees. A little much
believe.
believe.
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Re: This is the part I hate!
yea should be 4 degrees down at race ready weight
best to date N/A 8.91@153
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67 Camaro RS/SS
BBC Powerglide 4800 stall 4.11 29.5x10.5W
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67 Camaro RS/SS
BBC Powerglide 4800 stall 4.11 29.5x10.5W
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Re: This is the part I hate!
John Clavert said to my it should't be more than 3-4 deg. mine is at 9 deg. so it has to be fixed.........
Last edited by supernova on Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Blackhoodmafia!!!!
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
Re: This is the part I hate!
It's better to discover this acute angle this way rather than while picking up pieces of a yoke on the track
1969 ProStreet Camaro RS Best 9.75@139 1.46 60'
Blown 427 BBC, TH400 w/Brake, Back-Half Ladderbar
Narrowed 12-Bolt, 4.10 Gears, Spool, Moser 33 Spline
http://www.marsh-racing.com/harrys_camaro-1.htm
Blown 427 BBC, TH400 w/Brake, Back-Half Ladderbar
Narrowed 12-Bolt, 4.10 Gears, Spool, Moser 33 Spline
http://www.marsh-racing.com/harrys_camaro-1.htm
- Bruce69Camaro
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Re: This is the part I hate!
There you go, look at Team Camaro come together and take care of our sister car, the Nova...
That my friend is brothery love no matter how you look at it.
Good luck Chris and I agree with Harry, better now then all over the track.....
Bruce
That my friend is brothery love no matter how you look at it.
Good luck Chris and I agree with Harry, better now then all over the track.....
Bruce
Those who think they know it all have no way of finding out they don't.........
Re: This is the part I hate!
Yep you guy's are right! Better now than latter. So this weekend it will get fixed.
Blackhoodmafia!!!!
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
Re: This is the part I hate!
you could have made a shim in the mill at any given angle you like. also changes to the shackle length will change the angle
Re: This is the part I hate!
I have a ride hight I want to keep and eather one of those will change it besides that won't fix the side loading of the spring.....ERV JR wrote:you could have made a shim in the mill at any given angle you like. also changes to the shackle length will change the angle
Thank for the info though.
Blackhoodmafia!!!!
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
Re: This is the part I hate!
a wedge/pinion angle shim wont change the ride height much , you figure if the back edge is 1/4 thick then its only changing ride height about 1/8 of an inch. I have made lowering blocks with an angle miled into them. I know it doesent matter since you have a side loading issue anyway.supernova wrote:I have a ride hight I want to keep and eather one of those will change it besides that won't fix the side loading of the spring.....ERV JR wrote:you could have made a shim in the mill at any given angle you like. also changes to the shackle length will change the angle
Thank for the info though.
i hope you are putting the houshing in a jig and welding the perches, it willl pull.
BTW you got any pics of your car in its current state, since I opened my shop I havent been on this site due to time and didnt know where you were at on the build til I saw the front end on
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