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Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:55 pm
by punisher66j
Got the front clip pulled off today and pulled motor back out. I bought some solid lower mounts from summit and plan on getting them in the next day or so.

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Not sure what part of the old mount I should cut off, I don't know if I should cut everything off down to the cross member of if I should just unbolt the mount from the plate welded to the frame.

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Any Opinions???
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Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:24 am
by punisher66j
364779 on the back of block which comes back as a 366? Kinda pissed guy said it was 454 when I night it.

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:47 am
by bracketchev1221
Cut the entire mount off. That is a late model like late 70s motor mount. On early cars the rubber was in the block mount and the frame stand was solid.

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:48 am
by bracketchev1221
punisher66j wrote:364779 on the back of block which comes back as a 366? Kinda pissed guy said it was 454 when I night it.
Well the only thing maybe useable is the crank and rods. Otherwise it's junk.

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:47 pm
by punisher66j
So should I look for another 454? If not would a 355 small block do ok?

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:42 pm
by bracketchev1221
Well, it all comes down to ease of power. A 355 COULD be built to go low 7's in the 1/8. However it is much easier to do it with a much milder 454. I would go for a 525-550hp 454 and run under the index anywhere under any conditions.

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:57 pm
by John_Heard
Yeah you need to find the stock lower mounts for that, the ones you have aren't the right ones.

Don't bet on the #'s on the block, check the bore and stroke.

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:49 pm
by punisher66j
John_Heard wrote:Yeah you need to find the stock lower mounts for that, the ones you have aren't the right ones.

Don't bet on the #'s on the block, check the bore and stroke.
I am confused on your check the bore and stroke? How do I do that?

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:22 pm
by bracketchev1221
Pull a head and measure the cylinder diameter. And you can pull the pan and get the casting number off the crank. But a simple thing to check is a 366 was a tall deck block. If the water pump is about 1/2" from the deck then it's either a 366 or a tall deck 427.

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:52 pm
by punisher66j
bracketchev1221 wrote:Pull a head and measure the cylinder diameter. And you can pull the pan and get the casting number off the crank. But a simple thing to check is a 366 was a tall deck block. If the water pump is about 1/2" from the deck then it's either a 366 or a tall deck 427.
I will have to look at it when I get home but I don't have a water pump on it. It does have two thermostats in it though.

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:58 pm
by punisher66j
Also why aren't the solid mounts I have pictured the right ones? Not trying to argue but I specifically ordered them for a 68 camaro with a 396.

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:01 pm
by mytmouz
The lower frame mounts is what they are referring to as the wrong ones. You will need the stock style BBC stands to use the motor mounts you bought...

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:11 pm
by punisher66j
mytmouz wrote:The lower frame mounts is what they are referring to as the wrong ones. You will need the stock style BBC stands to use the motor mounts you bought...
Got ya, I do have those on the way as well coming off ebay. Honestly disappointed though now. I bought a BUNCH of parts for a 454 and now don't have one.

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:44 pm
by mytmouz
Yeah, from what I can sort of see in your pic, that is a tall deck motor....

Re: Rookie help/ Advice 1968 Camaro SS

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:46 am
by Bruce69Camaro
My question is, why did this guy weld the frame mounts to the sub frame?

If this is a 366 would there be any reason to relocate the frame mounts?

If you decide to go with a small block, guess what, you'll need new frame mounts.