Firewall Project
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Got the inlet side roughed in today.
And got a panel installed.
I roughed up the back of the panel & the chassis tubes with 80 grit on the angle grinder, then glued it in with fusion body panel adhesive.
And got a panel installed.
I roughed up the back of the panel & the chassis tubes with 80 grit on the angle grinder, then glued it in with fusion body panel adhesive.
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Cool... Hey I want to borrow your shrinker! I need to make me some dzus rails... Which model you have?
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John_Heard wrote:Cool... Hey I want to borrow your shrinker! I need to make me some dzus rails... Which model you have?
I'm not sure. I bought it from a booth at a car show a few years ago. I think it's about the same deal as H.F. sells. It works good for what I use it for, although it marks up the metal some. From what I've been told the higher quality shrinker/stretchers don't do that?
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Everybody (but me) had to work this weekend, we celebrated Father's day Thursday, so I had the weekend to work on the firewall. Got a fair amount done.
Since this WILL be a street legal car, I found a new spot to display the trim code tag.
I stuffed it between the strut tube & the inlet side of the intercooler.
Also made paper patterns for a couple more pieces of the puzzle.
Since this WILL be a street legal car, I found a new spot to display the trim code tag.
I stuffed it between the strut tube & the inlet side of the intercooler.
Also made paper patterns for a couple more pieces of the puzzle.
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I decided to stamp a "Camaro: logo in the driver's side panel
The press and bead rolling oil canned the panel a little but I think it will straighten out when I put the 7/8" tabs on the top & bottom with the brake.
It came out fairly clean, even the little piece in the top of the "o" stamped. That part was about 1/2 the size of a pencil eraser. When I paint the firewall I'll paint the logo over this, the stamping will give it a little extra "pop".
The press and bead rolling oil canned the panel a little but I think it will straighten out when I put the 7/8" tabs on the top & bottom with the brake.
It came out fairly clean, even the little piece in the top of the "o" stamped. That part was about 1/2 the size of a pencil eraser. When I paint the firewall I'll paint the logo over this, the stamping will give it a little extra "pop".
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I'm sure I've said it before, but you have some great skills.
That panel with "Camaro" in it is flawless.
That panel with "Camaro" in it is flawless.
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So help me understand how you're doing that:pro70z28 wrote:I decided to stamp a "Camaro: logo in the driver's side panel
The press and bead rolling oil canned the panel a little but I think it will straighten out when I put the 7/8" tabs on the top & bottom with the brake.
It came out fairly clean, even the little piece in the top of the "o" stamped. That part was about 1/2 the size of a pencil eraser. When I paint the firewall I'll paint the logo over this, the stamping will give it a little extra "pop".
You're using what looks like 3/16" aluminum on your CNC mill to create the Camaro pattern, then using it in some fashion in your press. Do you apply force to a heavy flat plate on top of the aluminum pattern, forming the pattern on sheet metal underneath which sits on a wooden panel ? Thats the only way I know of you could get the results you're getting, which btw, are fantastic.
What sort of press are you using, and how much force ? It would have to be pretty extreme I would suspect. Do you have pix of the pattern / piece / work setup arrangement ?
I would love to try this myself, though I certainly don't have your talent.
1969 ProStreet Camaro RS Best 9.75@139 1.46 60'
Blown 427 BBC, TH400 w/Brake, Back-Half Ladderbar
Narrowed 12-Bolt, 4.10 Gears, Spool, Moser 33 Spline
http://www.marsh-racing.com/harrys_camaro-1.htm
Blown 427 BBC, TH400 w/Brake, Back-Half Ladderbar
Narrowed 12-Bolt, 4.10 Gears, Spool, Moser 33 Spline
http://www.marsh-racing.com/harrys_camaro-1.htm
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Thanks everybody for the positive comments. I didn't take any pics. of this stamping but I did awhile back when I stamped out the sheet metal for the intercooler flanges.
The dies are CNC cut out of aluma-panel, a signboard that has a solid PVC core and is laminated on both sides with aluminum. (I used 3/4" MDF for the intercooler parts) Altogether the aluma-panel is just under 1/8" thick. I just use a H.F. 20 ton press & sandwich everything between some plate steel I got from the scrap yard. The aluma-panel dies are from scraps around the sign shop.
The dies are CNC cut out of aluma-panel, a signboard that has a solid PVC core and is laminated on both sides with aluminum. (I used 3/4" MDF for the intercooler parts) Altogether the aluma-panel is just under 1/8" thick. I just use a H.F. 20 ton press & sandwich everything between some plate steel I got from the scrap yard. The aluma-panel dies are from scraps around the sign shop.
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I would guess the aluma-panel is soft enough that it naturally provides the nice smooth edge radius / transition for the pressed shapes outline, height wise. Very clever and very clean.pro70z28 wrote:Thanks everybody for the positive comments. I didn't take any pics. of this stamping but I did awhile back when I stamped out the sheet metal for the intercooler flanges.
The dies are CNC cut out of aluma-panel, a signboard that has a solid PVC core and is laminated on both sides with aluminum. (I used 3/4" MDF for the intercooler parts) Altogether the aluma-panel is just under 1/8" thick. I just use a H.F. 20 ton press & sandwich everything between some plate steel I got from the scrap yard. The aluma-panel dies are from scraps around the sign shop.
1969 ProStreet Camaro RS Best 9.75@139 1.46 60'
Blown 427 BBC, TH400 w/Brake, Back-Half Ladderbar
Narrowed 12-Bolt, 4.10 Gears, Spool, Moser 33 Spline
http://www.marsh-racing.com/harrys_camaro-1.htm
Blown 427 BBC, TH400 w/Brake, Back-Half Ladderbar
Narrowed 12-Bolt, 4.10 Gears, Spool, Moser 33 Spline
http://www.marsh-racing.com/harrys_camaro-1.htm
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The aluma panel looks the same when I take it out as before I used it . I would have thought the edges would have rounded off a little but not so. I leave an 1/8" space between dies so the aluminum naturally bevels at about a 45° angle.
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Your top press plate looks to be right at 1" thick - is it thick enough to evenly spread the pressure or do you need to do multiple presses to get what you want ?pro70z28 wrote:The aluma panel looks the same when I take it out as before I used it . I would have thought the edges would have rounded off a little but not so. I leave an 1/8" space between dies so the aluminum naturally bevels at about a 45° angle.
1969 ProStreet Camaro RS Best 9.75@139 1.46 60'
Blown 427 BBC, TH400 w/Brake, Back-Half Ladderbar
Narrowed 12-Bolt, 4.10 Gears, Spool, Moser 33 Spline
http://www.marsh-racing.com/harrys_camaro-1.htm
Blown 427 BBC, TH400 w/Brake, Back-Half Ladderbar
Narrowed 12-Bolt, 4.10 Gears, Spool, Moser 33 Spline
http://www.marsh-racing.com/harrys_camaro-1.htm
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