66 GM A-body rear suspension

[Bob West]

Bob your car hooks hard my unit has gone a few 1.39s on mtr but runs like 6.00 and is still a hit and miss.. how is the repairs coming?

Thanks for asking. The body is back on the frame, got some plumbing and wiring to do to get it running (minus front clip) then off to the body shop in a couple weeks to have the rocker panel repaired,rollbar attached to the new frame and fenders put back on it. With any luck I should be back to the track sometime in May. I've duplicated Eds suspension up to a point, I'm still using control arms and I have a bolt-on antiroll bar. I wont 60ft like his does, but it isnt too shabby.

[Mike Peters]

a combo that dead hooks on the start and 60 it's azz off may not stick so good at 140. my fingers are crossed for ya..

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! We don't race for 60'.

[The ORIGINAL 1320racer]

with a n/a combo 60 foot is EVERYTHING to ET!

If it don't 60 foot, it don't ET!!

ALL your ET is made in the 1st 330 feet!

What you give up in the front half can NOT be made up in the back half!!

The Pro Stock, Comp, Super Stock and Stock Eliminator crowd knows and I KNOW!!

[Mike Peters]

with a n/a combo 60 foot is EVERYTHING to ET!

If it don't 60 foot, it don't ET!!

ALL your ET is made in the 1st 330 feet!

What you give up in the front half can NOT be made up in the back half!!

The Pro Stock, Comp, Super Stock and Stock Eliminator crowd knows and I KNOW!!

Yeah, YOU know Ed. You're the self-proclaimed smartest 10 second racer in the world. Why don't you go pat yourself on the back on some other board? Do you just sit around and do internet searches for "Alf Weibe" looking for opportunities to post pics?

Read the last line of this article-----

http://www.dragstuff.com/techarticles/PB-60ftmyth.html

[The ORIGINAL 1320racer]

1. smartest...I don't know, I'm just a dumb bracket racer but I do have the best working small tire chevelle/stock type/bolt on suspension in the country!

2. I have the $ and knowledge to put this ride into the 8's n/a IF that was my goal...which it's NOT!
However my new bullet will easily put my 3880 lb. ride in the 9's n/a, off the footbrake and through a full exhaust!







3. went 10.37 deep staged on 2 barrels on it's 1st pass this weekend and 10.22 on 4 barrels with a 1.250 bore restrictor plate this past weekend!

Thanks for the welcome!

[Mike Peters]

I know you're being sarcastic but, make no mistake, I didn't welcome you and your pompus attitude to Dragstuff. If you are truly here to participate and enjoy the company then, by all means....stay. If you're here to berate other's opinions then, don't let the door.............

[The ORIGINAL 1320racer]

No one was berated by me and it was YOU that started with the BS rather than stick to the topic of the thread!

NOW what part of the TRUTH and FACTS don't you like and yes I AM smarter and have far more experience when it comes to GM A bodies and doing more with less than most that post on these boads!

[Mike Peters]

No one was berated by me and it was YOU that started with the BS rather than stick to the topic of the thread!

NOW what part of the TRUTH and FACTS don't you like and yes I AM smarter and have far more experience when it comes to GM A bodies and doing more with less than most that post on these boads!

Let's just say your reputation precedes you Ed. You started BS a long time ago... You didn't answer any question about Alf's suspension on this thread but, obviously felt compelled to post photos and #'s. Now we've got to have multiple photos of some blinged out valve-covers in a question about getting a GM A-body to hook. woo-hoo.... That, IMO, is not participation with good intent. That's just you fulfilling your need to self-promote and has been your M.O. from many past posts on other boards. Answer "Tom Syron's" question about Alf's stuff and show your willingness to share info. Oh, I forgot, it's TOP SECRET.

[The ORIGINAL 1320racer]

Let's just say your reputation precedes you Ed.

As it should, I don't bullshyt, I ain't on the net selling anything and I only offer advice about what I KNOW works...

THE PROOF IS IN THE PERFORMANCE

My "reputation" is for providing sound advice based on FACT and first hand on track experience covering 17 seasons and over 4000 passes with this car/combo NOT opinion, myth, rumor, hearsay and marketing!!

My "reputation" is also that I have helped many on the net over the past 8 years achieve their goals, resolve their performance, chassis and suspension problems while guiding others so they get it right the first time and save $$!!

As well my "reputation" is that I have/will help anyone that truely wants help and wants to learn!

Further, "my reputation" is that I tell them what they need to know, NOT what they want to hear!

Lastly, "my reputation" is that if you challenge my advice you best be able to back up yours with 1st hand knowledge/experience with YOUR car comparing apples to apples cause I can, have and will!

I have 66 GTO with about 625 hp motor. I have Hotshkis rear adjustable upper and lower control arms, Moroso front drag springs, CE adjustable shocks front and rear. The car runs low 11 sec with a 30"X9" slick.
What is the best way to get the car hook better?
What upgrades could I make?
Thanks Tom

Tom, the key to get these nose heavy cars to hook consistently is first and foremost controlled weight transfer!

Easily accomplished with the RIGHT springs and shocks which the Moroso and CE shocks are not!

You want a Moog spring and Koni GAS street shocks front and rear.

As to the rear suspension, the Alf Weibe stuff is the best bar none!

NOTHING bolt on comes close but it was NOT designed for nor intended for the street crowd or those launching off a transbrake!

Specifically it was designed for and around the rules of NHRA Stock Eliminator!

IMO, it's also not needed until your 60 foots are sub 1.50.

Further 99.9% of those commenting about this suspension on the net never knew it existed or heard the name Alf Weibe no mind seen it or use it until I posted about it/him 8 years ago.

Matter of fact, the photo on page 1 is the only one ever posted on the net and was done so by a friend whose not a serious racer that I sold the kit to about 4 years ago that decided to return his '66 Chevelle to street duty and sell the kit, not understanding the impact of his actions for Alf and his customers!

The auction was shut down immediately and the kit has been in my possesion since that time!

That said, the stock style stuff can be made to work pretty good as Bob West's performance shows.

Now IF this is true...

I want my car to leave like the red Chevelle! I would like to learn what it takes?

you'll need...

1. to remove all your current front and rear suspension components
2. about $2,500 for Alf's stuff and other components
3. new slicks
4. my help and

5. MORE power!;)

Good Luck

[vegaracer]

The ORIGINAL 1320 racer, are you the cocky guy on yellow bullet under the name "Footbraker"
Sheeeeesh.
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4608

[vegaracer]

I also forgot, I could put my ride in the sevens if I wanted to. I also have the cash to do it.

[Bob West]

Anybody wanting to hook a GM A body, contact Ed and he'll help you out. He's been doing it for a while now. I'll vouch for that!!! He might even have a few speed secrets for the BBC crowd

[Tom Syron]

Thanks for the imput. I am going to look into the springs and shocks and see if I can figue out what I need.
Thanks, Tom

[The ORIGINAL 1320racer]

Bob West KNOWS!

[shookler]

Could we settle this on an episode of PINKS??? or, like we do at the school when the bantering begins, take them to the grassy area between the parking lots and let them fight it out.

On a serious note though, why isnt Dave Morgan right in the middle of this. I have pages of notes from his seminar on shocks and springs. Dave, this is your chance, jump in here.........Tell em what you told us about shocks and springs.........

LSHook

"Not knockin on 9's door anymore"
"Kickin it in this weekend!!"