Can you make A lader bar Dead hook

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Can you make A lader bar Dead hook

#1 Post by dragrace67camro » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:08 pm

I run Super street and Super Gas but Very Hard to dial when have .o2- .04 difference in 60ft
car is deadly when I can guess what the 60ft is going to do
this year I got new set of Koni shock double adj. ( had QA1 ) and got much better I Have been playing with settings But I really need my 60 ft times to repeat
my converter flashes to about 5800- 5900and per the data recorder right at 5700-5800 is where I get a little spin

i have tryed turning my launch RPM down down down but still flash to about the same point
i have the stop coming on at .001

ANYone have any Idea's :idea:

or am i forced to cut out everything and go with 4 link :cry:



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2775 lb empty 3000with driver race ready
lader bar car 3 deg down in front also tried 0 deg
3 deg down pin angle
ford 9"in rear end 4.30 gear also have a set of 4.56 but was trying to keep RPM's under control at top end
tire is 31.5x14.5 x15 100 roll out GoodYear 1.75. inch of tavel on front end
540 BBC 1050 dom. carb 875 hp
2 speed trans with stock first gear shift at 1 sec
launch is 5000 on trans brake have tired have tried many differnt RPMS
Koni coil overs with 110 pound springs double adj.
moroso trick springs in front with 90/10 shocks
and a arm tube front end from smith race craft
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Re: Can you make A lader bar Dead hook

#2 Post by sunsation540 » Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:44 pm

you can move the bars up +2 deg add front travel.. the bar change will make it plant harder.. but the travel will slow your reaction! you have alot going on in the first 60 the stop is coming on you are shifting the trans.have you ran the stop out to say .30 and move the shift to 1.40 i know you may have to put more stop in or stay on longer. this is more of a timing issue rather than a traction issue!! 2 cents....
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Re: Can you make A lader bar Dead hook

#3 Post by Jeff 4100 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:32 am

sunsation540 wrote:you can move the bars up +2 deg add front travel.. the bar change will make it plant harder.. but the travel will slow your reaction! you have alot going on in the first 60 the stop is coming on you are shifting the trans.have you ran the stop out to say .30 and move the shift to 1.40 i know you may have to put more stop in or stay on longer. this is more of a timing issue rather than a traction issue!! 2 cents....
Hi Dragrace67camro!!
Move the bars up is a goog idea!!
Did you already test the 80/20 front shocks??
I think it would be a good test for the front rising...
Go ahead!!
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Re: Can you make A lader bar Dead hook

#4 Post by Jeff 4100 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:50 am

dragrace67camro wrote: ANYone have any Idea's :idea:

or am i forced to cut out everything and go with 4 link :cry:
It wouldn't be a bad idea...
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If you have time to test your car, move on to 4 Link system!!!

Last month I made my 4 Link System and I thought awesome!!!

Now I'm testing the positions. My 60 feet time fell 0,3sec between one bars position and another...

And this system showed me all my shocks and springs problems...

Let's go!!
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Re: Can you make A lader bar Dead hook

#5 Post by dragrace67camro » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:06 pm

Jeff 4100 wrote:
sunsation540 wrote:you can move the bars up +2 deg - so try moving the front bar hole up one hole ? someone once told be the harder you can hit a latter bar the better it works but we are trying to get not spin at all

add front travel.. I have about 1.5 inch should I go to 2.0 inch ? you think that would be enough

the bar change will make it plant harder.. but the travel will slow your reaction! I have some timer I can take out of the Transbrake In Super Street we use a .500 tree and I have .110 I can take out now in Super Gas we use a .400 tree would only have about .010 or so to take out but WE can cross that bridge when we get there .

you have alot going on in the first 60 the stop is coming on you are shifting the trans.have you ran the stop out to say .30 and move the shift to 1.40 i know you may have to put more stop in or stay on longer. this is more of a timing issue rather than a traction issue!! 2 cents....
main reason I am coming on stop so quick is to limit the spin and besides spending less time on the stop -

was thinking of taking out some Timing on the launch maybe to tame the launch down little but I dont know
but to do this I would have to but either a MSD digital 7 or add on Deal

thanks for everones help








Hi Dragrace67camro!!
Move the bars up is a goog idea!!
Did you already test the 80/20 front shocks??
I think it would be a good test for the front rising...
Go ahead!!
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Re: Can you make A lader bar Dead hook

#6 Post by dragrace67camro » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:10 pm

also I have been thinking of getting better front shocks like I did for the back I just got the Koni rear coil overs and they helped out a bunch but I have the cheap comp. eng. 3 way adj front shocks maybe I Need to step up there as well :gundown: ( Front Shocks )
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Re: Can you make A lader bar Dead hook

#7 Post by FARRIGNO » Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:05 pm

those 3-way comp's are good for a 11-second car IMHO,since you already stepped up the rear shocks, i would def,get some multy adjustable's for the front.
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