TOO MUCH TRACTION?

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LittleJ
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Re: TOO MUCH TRACTION?

#16 Post by LittleJ » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:32 am

tuning a nitrous car without the nitrous on is impossible, the gear selected, the converter stall, even the carbs are all set to have the additional torque. all nitrous cars are pigs when run on motor and they dead hook, the additional power from the nitrous is needed to break the tires loose and get wheelspeed. if you get wheel speed now without the nitrous off it will just smoke the tires with the nitrous on. you need to have at least 80% of the nitrous package in when your tuning.

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Re: TOO MUCH TRACTION?

#17 Post by race9899 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:36 pm

Yup, You have to put in a non adder Converter, and Gear selection at a minimum to get it worked out..

The only thing you can pay any attention to is getting the car tuned for MPH right now, everything else will be useless when you put the juice to it.

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Re: TOO MUCH TRACTION?

#18 Post by 99camaro » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:51 pm

even though the motor makes 1010 hp without nitrous and only spraying 200-300 hp it will make that much difference?

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Re: TOO MUCH TRACTION?

#19 Post by race9899 » Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:27 pm

99camaro wrote:even though the motor makes 1010 hp without nitrous and only spraying 200-300 hp it will make that much difference?
Check to see where the converter is flashing to, then look at your dyno sheets and see where your motor starts making HP and torque.

There is a big difference HP and Torque even with a 300 shot

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Re: TOO MUCH TRACTION?

#20 Post by go to guy » Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:07 am

Way too a big tire, need looser converter 6000+ and better double adjustable shocks.

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Re: TOO MUCH TRACTION?

#21 Post by John_Heard » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:21 am

99camaro wrote:even though the motor makes 1010 hp without nitrous and only spraying 200-300 hp it will make that much difference?
Even a small shot will make a huge difference in how it launches. Your converter flash will increase approx 1000 rpm or more and it's going to hit the tire with a lot more torque. You'll still have tuning to do on the chassis more than likely, but maybe you can get away from the dead hook. Still probably going to have to do something with those wheelie bars so they aren't unloading the car when the tire wads up.

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Re: TOO MUCH TRACTION?

#22 Post by BillyShope » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:29 am

You got the correct answer in the second response (johnh): Increase the tire air pressure.

Just increase the tire air pressure until you stop abusing the wheelie bars. From that point, you've got 2 choices: Either sell the car or find ways to move a whole lotta weight forward.
If you're able to avoid the first choice and move enough weight forward to allow a return to the lower tire air pressures, you'll have what you want.
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Re: TOO MUCH TRACTION?

#23 Post by bracketracer » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:59 pm

Get rid of that th400 and put a glide in it :scratch: .....

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Re: TOO MUCH TRACTION?

#24 Post by BracketNova » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:43 pm

I agree, how long are you in first gear...maybe a second? :roll:
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Re: TOO MUCH TRACTION?

#25 Post by Dave Morgan » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:14 pm

99,
What are your rear spring rates? If all you are trying to do is to get more wheelspeed, try slightly stiffer springs. In doing so, be careful of how the car handles bumps and gear changes.
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