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Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:43 am
by supernova
Chris Alston brackets. 5 holes, but i have seen them with 3 and 4 holes.

I still think your making it more complicated than it has to be. The simlpest way usually is the best way.

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:55 am
by John_Heard
I want to put some of those ladder bar adjusters on my John Trac's.. Looks like they would be handy.

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:50 pm
by BillyShope
John_Heard wrote:I want to put some of those ladder bar adjusters on my John Trac's.. Looks like they would be handy.
Okay, but use Rod Cole's design and not mine. Both a brick and a flyswatter meet the design goal of killing a fly and are thus flawless. Compared to Rod's design, mine is the brick.
http://www.racetec.cc/shope

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:57 pm
by John_Heard
Sorry - wasn't clear. Not sure how one would use your idea on a leaf spring car Billy, I was referring to the adjuster on the conventional bars in the photo above my post.

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:11 pm
by BillyShope
John_Heard wrote:Not sure how one would use your idea on a leaf spring car....
My bad. I didn't read your post closely.

Still, this presents an interesting design problem. If the front of the leaf spring could be somehow "captured" in a piece which embodies Rod's design concept, it would enable a wide choice of antisquat percentages. This might be of value for those racing in a class which demands retention of the stock springs.
http://www.racetec.cc/shope

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:02 am
by BillyShope
BillyShope wrote: Don't think it would be all that difficult. The following would be the procedure with the 3 Heim design: Place jackstands forward of the frame brackets with enough load to stabilize the car. If the car has positive preload....
Should have been:

If the car has NEGATIVE preload....
http://www.racetec.cc/shope

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:16 pm
by supernova
A better idea......

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Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:59 pm
by sc racing
supernova wrote:A better idea......

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I dont think that will swivel when its tightened.

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:26 pm
by supernova
Use a nilock

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:26 pm
by BillyShope
Put a rubber mounted bushing or a Heim at the front of the block marked "Solid" and it's great. This does have an advantage over Ron's design in that finer adjustments are available. The price is a bit more time to make the change.
http://www.racetec.cc/shope

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:06 am
by sc racing
With just a nyloc you have a lot of metal to metal contact in the bracket also there is no place for a safety strap if the bolt ever broke or fell out.Looks like a good idea for more adjustment, so who is going to be the guinea pig for some testing? Chris?

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:28 am
by supernova
I would build and try it if I hadn't already had a ladder bar system in. I'm not afraid.

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:26 pm
by slightly tweeked
supernova wrote:I would build and try it if I hadn't already had a ladder bar system in. I'm not afraid.
Build one for Rob Chris he can try it along with his new blower setup... :scratch:

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:49 pm
by supernova
Blower set up?????????????? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Ladder Bar Mod

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:19 pm
by chpcamaro
lol i think moe is refering to the thing on the other site lol