coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
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coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
I have the moroso 47150 right now, which is the lightest spring available. Ive already cut 1.5 coils and the ride height is still too high.
in addition to that, the last owner ran coil overs and it was set up very low so now my tires are pointing way inward at the top and the upper control arm is bound.
so I have two problems
1. the lightest moroso springs are too tall even with 1.5 springs cut off. Moroso only suggests cutting up to .5 coil
2. the uppercontrol arm is bound(I think as a result of alignment for the much lower ride height that previous owner set it up for)
so, Im thinking of just going with a front coil over like the previous owner had but
-Ive read that they dont provide as much front end travel, and Im pretty sure I will need front end travel as this car is not that powerful(low to mid 6s in the eighth)
-Im concerned about using the two shock mounting points on the stock lower control arm to hold my front end up
so, should I just cut my coil again and do an alignment, or should I say ef it(ef is a word by the way- per scrabble rules lol) and go with a coil over kit.
if coil overs, which would you recommend?
thanks. here is and old pic of the car
in addition to that, the last owner ran coil overs and it was set up very low so now my tires are pointing way inward at the top and the upper control arm is bound.
so I have two problems
1. the lightest moroso springs are too tall even with 1.5 springs cut off. Moroso only suggests cutting up to .5 coil
2. the uppercontrol arm is bound(I think as a result of alignment for the much lower ride height that previous owner set it up for)
so, Im thinking of just going with a front coil over like the previous owner had but
-Ive read that they dont provide as much front end travel, and Im pretty sure I will need front end travel as this car is not that powerful(low to mid 6s in the eighth)
-Im concerned about using the two shock mounting points on the stock lower control arm to hold my front end up
so, should I just cut my coil again and do an alignment, or should I say ef it(ef is a word by the way- per scrabble rules lol) and go with a coil over kit.
if coil overs, which would you recommend?
thanks. here is and old pic of the car
Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
Just remember that when cutting the spring down you get less active coils which means the spring will be stiffer.
Blackhoodmafia!!!!
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
if you do cut them more only cut a 1/4 at a time it drops really fast after the first coil
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psca westcoast heads up racing open comp
67 Camaro RS/SS
BBC Powerglide 4800 stall 4.11 29.5x10.5W
http://www.chpdragracing.com
Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
thanks .can you tell me what front suspension setup you guys are running?
Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
i'm running the qa1 R coil over conversion front shocks and i am very happy with them so far
other wise the rest of my front end is shock
other wise the rest of my front end is shock
best to date N/A 8.91@153
psca westcoast heads up racing open comp
67 Camaro RS/SS
BBC Powerglide 4800 stall 4.11 29.5x10.5W
http://www.chpdragracing.com
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67 Camaro RS/SS
BBC Powerglide 4800 stall 4.11 29.5x10.5W
http://www.chpdragracing.com
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Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
Stock except for Moroso springs.71 chevy wrote:thanks .can you tell me what front suspension setup you guys are running?
72 Nova
548 cu in,900hp
Turbo 400
5600 stall
Ford 9in,457 gears
3640 lbs,all steel car.except hood.
Runs low 9s in 1/4.High 5s in 1/8.
548 cu in,900hp
Turbo 400
5600 stall
Ford 9in,457 gears
3640 lbs,all steel car.except hood.
Runs low 9s in 1/4.High 5s in 1/8.
Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
thanks guys.
so chp camaro, how is the front end movement with the qa1s
tweeked, which moroso spring are you using?
oh, while I have you guys attention, I want to do my alignment myself and need a recommendation on a tool or tool kit.
thanks
so chp camaro, how is the front end movement with the qa1s
tweeked, which moroso spring are you using?
oh, while I have you guys attention, I want to do my alignment myself and need a recommendation on a tool or tool kit.
thanks
Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
I run Moroso springs, QA1-R shocks, TRZ A-arms. Will change to the coil over conversion later this up coming year.
Blackhoodmafia!!!!
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
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Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
Maybe a dumb ass question, but that pic of the car made me wonder - you do have the engine in it now don't you? if not, it's going to drop a bunch when you put it back in.
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Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
If your looking at my pic, it drops about 4" with the motor in it. My avatar pic has the motor in it.
Blackhoodmafia!!!!
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
I have a 71 nova also, I'm running the QA1 coil over conversion kit with double adjustable shocks, global west TLC control arms, I have about 5 inches of front end travel. If you go with the QA1 set up and have a small block I would run either the 350 rate spring or the 250 rate. I have both and they both work but the 250s are 11 inch long and the 350 is 10 long. With the 250 rate spring you can load the spring more on the shock body for more stored energy.71 chevy wrote:thanks .can you tell me what front suspension setup you guys are running?
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Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
In my Camaro, I'm running a Moog spring for a 6 cyl Camaro, that were cut down and using Calvert race shocks.
I know a race car engineer and he told me this setup worked great for his camaro and the only reason he switched to a QA-1 coilover setup was for more adjustability.
Bruce
I know a race car engineer and he told me this setup worked great for his camaro and the only reason he switched to a QA-1 coilover setup was for more adjustability.
Bruce
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Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
EUREKA!!!
the reTARD(me) who installed the springs the last time did not make sure they were seated in the top pocket. so when I checked again and saw this, I pulled the springs out, and for the heck of it cut another half coil off and reinstalled them, this time making sure they were in the pocket correctly.
now I have no control arm bind, the geometry is where it should be, and best of all I have 4.5 inches of travel so this thing should pull the front hard.
measured at the middle of the wheel, the fender bottom is 23" off the ground.
now I just need to do the alignment. anyone have any tools they recommend?
the reTARD(me) who installed the springs the last time did not make sure they were seated in the top pocket. so when I checked again and saw this, I pulled the springs out, and for the heck of it cut another half coil off and reinstalled them, this time making sure they were in the pocket correctly.
now I have no control arm bind, the geometry is where it should be, and best of all I have 4.5 inches of travel so this thing should pull the front hard.
measured at the middle of the wheel, the fender bottom is 23" off the ground.
now I just need to do the alignment. anyone have any tools they recommend?
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Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
No, I was talking about the OP's pic he had up earlier.supernova wrote:If your looking at my pic, it drops about 4" with the motor in it. My avatar pic has the motor in it.
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Re: coil over kit for nova. bad idea???
Oh? I didn't see any other pics.
Blackhoodmafia!!!!
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
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