vacuum advance
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vacuum advance
hello everybody, with my vacuum advance plugged, i have my initial timing at 18, then when i hook it back up it goes to 44, i run manifold vacuum for advance, does that seem to high, will that cause idle problems?
- hugger73hatch
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Re: vacuum advance
Seems high. I'm sure others will chime in here, but need more info on setup.
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Re: vacuum advance
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- hugger73hatch
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Re: vacuum advance
I would think somewhere in the 34-36 total timing range, probably closer to the 34, and being too high can affect idle.
73 Nova Hatchback, 408 Small Block 13-1, Iron Heads, 6.972 @ 98.362, 1.468 60', 3450 lbs, still tuning
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Re: vacuum advance
i think 44 is kind of high to, might try a different vacuum canister.
Re: vacuum advance
I assume you are driving it on the street since you are running a vaccum advance. So if you are I recomend that you run it connected to a timed vaccum port on the carb. The way you have it, it will see full manifold vaccum all the time. 44 degrees is too high for full throttle under a load. I would get a timing curve kit and work on the initial timing and overall timing with vaccum unhooked and plugged. Then check it hooked to a timed port. A timed vaccum port loses vaccum signal at WOT.
I think I explained that right?!
I think I explained that right?!
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Brodix Track1 Heads, 14:1 compression, 180 shot plate,
2" tube Hussler Headers, 1.38 60ft., 6.20 ET 1/8th, 109 MPH,
Still Tuning, more to come.
Re: vacuum advance
I run with 12* initial 34 total by 2700 RPM with the vac advance hooked full manifold vac. I also made a limiter plate so I only get 8* of vac advance. I can feel it in the seat of my pants after setting it up this way compared to the way it was.
My lug nuts require more torque than your Honda makes.
Re: vacuum advance
If you get part throttle detonation, switch to a 10 degree can or an adjustable one.
Under light throttle, that much advance isn't a problem. It'll help the engine run cooler, get better mileage and be more responsive.
Manifold vacuum is what I always recommend. At WOT, it'll go away anyway and you'll be left with the intial plus centrifugal advance.
If you want to read more of my takes on ignition advance, go to www.2quicknovas.com/tech.html and click on the ignition article.
Under light throttle, that much advance isn't a problem. It'll help the engine run cooler, get better mileage and be more responsive.
Manifold vacuum is what I always recommend. At WOT, it'll go away anyway and you'll be left with the intial plus centrifugal advance.
If you want to read more of my takes on ignition advance, go to www.2quicknovas.com/tech.html and click on the ignition article.
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Re: vacuum advance
44 @ at idle is too much. do what Craig said and you'll be good. John Eric.
Re: vacuum advance
where can i get a 10 degree can, or does anybody know a part number?
Re: vacuum advance
you can get one at an auto parts store I believe they were used on older cars not equipped with an EGR. I might be wrong but it seems like I just heard that a couple of days ago.
My lug nuts require more torque than your Honda makes.
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