power to run 10's

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427belair · #1 Post by **427belair** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:50 pm

I have a question for all the gen 2 nova guys.
I was wondering what kinda power it took to get into the tens and with what engine, trans, gear combo? Here is what im starting within my 74 nova.

496
forged scat bottom
13 to 1 comp
252/264@.50 .714 lift roller cam
i havent decided on the top end.... im leaning towards the brodix bb2 plus heads and intake and a 1050 dominator.

what do you think shold i be close to the 10's in the thin montana air, the last race i went to in september corrected elevation was 9500+ ft.

thanks for any and all imput

sc racing · #2 Post by **sc racing** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:20 pm

We ran 10.90in a 3000 lb car at sea level with 475 hp dynoed at the flywheel. Depending on what your cars weighs I would think you will need to make a lot more hp at that altitude.

#3 Post by **John_Heard** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:02 am

That combo ought to easily get you into the 10's with a decent set of heads and intake - IF you were running somewhere besides the top of a mountain! I'm not to sure how bad that's going to hurt you what maybe 2-3 tenths or more?

Say with a 28" tall tire, TH400 I'd say start with a 4:10 rear gear, maybe 4:30? That's what I used to have in mine a few years ago with a somewhat similar sized engine.

#4 Post by **John_Heard** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:06 am

Mr. Suttton - you got a good idea how bad that air's gonna hurt his ET's?

427belair · #5 Post by **427belair** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:14 am

I will be running a th350 with a 4000 stall and 4.30 gears in a 9". I have to build a 700r for my 55 chevy before i can take the th400 out of it. All three track we run at have very thin air. I have never seen corrected elevations of less than 5500 ft.

79 Camaro · #6 Post by **79 Camaro** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:04 pm

Beyond wrote:Mr. Suttton - you got a good idea how bad that air's gonna hurt his ET's?

If anyone knows air effecting ET it is our good friend Mr. Sutton.

What have you been up to Harold?? Have not seen ya blowin up the boards lately??

Adam

MOOSE · #7 Post by **MOOSE** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:30 pm

Moose Racing Announcement

Mr. Harold Sutton has been hired as the new Crew Chief for the ever exciting Moose Racing Program. At this time Mr. Sutton, due to contract negotiations, cannot reveal any information that could be used against Moose Racing in the 2007 racing season. Thank you for your understanding in this matter. Mr. Suttons ever expanding racing knowledge will be used to further the ever exciting racing program at Moose Racing.

Respectfully

Chris Morse CEO

79 Camaro · #8 Post by **79 Camaro** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:59 pm

WOW!!!!

#9 Post by **John_Heard** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:39 am

Dang Chris is always stepping up!

79 Camaro · #10 Post by **79 Camaro** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:05 am

Beyond wrote:

Dang Chris is always stepping up!

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats a classic right there!!!!

hsutton · #11 Post by **hsutton** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:47 am

MOOSE wrote:Moose Racing Announcement

Mr. Harold Sutton has been hired as the new Crew Chief for the ever exciting Moose Racing Program. At this time Mr. Sutton, due to contract negotiations, cannot reveal any information that could be used against Moose Racing in the 2007 racing season. Thank you for your understanding in this matter. Mr. Suttons ever expanding racing knowledge will be used to further the ever exciting racing program at Moose Racing.

Respectfully

Chris Morse CEO

Thanks for the vote of confidence Moose. Pro Stock cars routinely loose 4-5 tenths over a sea level track. I think Denver's record is in the seven oh's and most runs when the air is bad is a couple of tenths slower than that. Warren Johnson said he'd encountered air in the 10,000 ft. D.A. range. He further stated "the air is so thin, the birds are walking". That motor could make anywhere from 550-725 H.P. depending on what heads, cam, etc. at sea level but the relatively high compression will help a lot at altitude. Has this combination ever been run anywhere? In a medium weight car it should be able to run 10s, even at Denver. A stocker from here looses about 7-8 tenths at Denver if it's hot. AFR 305cc with the CNC chamber would be my recommendation for heads milled for maximum compression. You may have to index your plugs but at altitude the compression will make tons of difference in the way the motor runs according to a friend who used to build Pro Stock Motorcycle engines.

427belair · #12 Post by **427belair** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:00 pm

I havent run the combo any where. Im still in the building process of my car, and this is my first true drag car. I'm only bracket racing, but i have a buddy that runs 11 flat in a pontiac with a 455 and a but load of nitious and i want to be faster

. so thats my motorvation for running 10's

79 Camaro · #13 Post by **79 Camaro** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:34 pm

Good to see you on the boards again Harold!

You been doing ok?

Adam

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