How Much Should This Cost?
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How Much Should This Cost?
After my conversations with a few of you fine folks and searches on the internet I now realize a Blower motor whether BBC or SBC is fiscally prohibitive at this time.
The 502 BBC is said to be able to make 1000+ HP and still hold together well as well as providing a foundation for a trully large & powerfull Street/Strip motor.
A 4.5 inch bore with a 4 inch crank is a 509, if you replace the 4 inch crank with a 4.25 incher you now have 540 CID, a 4.375 crank with the afforementioned bore is a 557.
Would it be possible for me with help to assemble a 670-750 HP E-85 557 CID engine from parts for around $6-9,000?
The 502 BBC is said to be able to make 1000+ HP and still hold together well as well as providing a foundation for a trully large & powerfull Street/Strip motor.
A 4.5 inch bore with a 4 inch crank is a 509, if you replace the 4 inch crank with a 4.25 incher you now have 540 CID, a 4.375 crank with the afforementioned bore is a 557.
Would it be possible for me with help to assemble a 670-750 HP E-85 557 CID engine from parts for around $6-9,000?
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Re: How Much Should This Cost?
Probably not going to build a new engine for that cost, you might be able to buy used stuff and get there. If you're only wanting 650-700 hp, I'd suggest looking at building a OEM block 496 to 505, which can make that kind of power without getting too crazy on cost. If you spend time locating good used parts, build it yourself, etc. you can probably be within that price range.
FYI - a store bought 540 that makes 650 hp runs about 11,000 to 14,000 depending on components, etc. ball park pricing.
FYI - a store bought 540 that makes 650 hp runs about 11,000 to 14,000 depending on components, etc. ball park pricing.
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Re: How Much Should This Cost?
I'd have to go with John with this one. I have about $12,000 in a stock block motor that makes 800+nitrous HP (1050hp). That was with me doing all the work but machine work, turn key. To buy a motor that is the same HP would cost $2,000-$3,000 more at least and that's not a nitrous motor.
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Good motor parts ain't cheap and cheap motor parts ain't good.........
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1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
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Re: How Much Should This Cost?
The classifieds here and racingjunk are your biggest friends when your on a budget :) Especially this time of year. I would think you could build a 468 rather cost effectively and still acheive 700 hp.
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Re: How Much Should This Cost?
Yeah, what Super said. I got just under 12,000 in my 496. (and he is gonna be about 2 sec. quicker than me)John_Heard wrote:Probably not going to build a new engine for that cost, you might be able to buy used stuff and get there. If you're only wanting 650-700 hp, I'd suggest looking at building a OEM block 496 to 505, which can make that kind of power without getting too crazy on cost. If you spend time locating good used parts, build it yourself, etc. you can probably be within that price range.
FYI - a store bought 540 that makes 650 hp runs about 11,000 to 14,000 depending on components, etc. ball park pricing.
You could probably get a 502/509 to 1000 hp but it aint gonna on pump gas without a blower or nitrous. Now, if your careful for 7000 you can build some pretty serious beef out of a Gen. IV big chevy motor.
73 Vette, moly back half
Pump gas 496
Two Pro Systems 950's
Chance 6000 converter
Pump gas 496
Two Pro Systems 950's
Chance 6000 converter
Re: How Much Should This Cost?
If 6-9k is your budget dont worry about cubic inch try to copy a proven combo thats make the hp your looking for. 700 hp is pretty easy with 49u in like John said and bbc parts are all over the place for sale.
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Re: How Much Should This Cost?
Eagle Machine Inc.
417-345-8532
Buffalo, Mo
Has done a few 505's for us that can reach both your power & budget goals.
417-345-8532
Buffalo, Mo
Has done a few 505's for us that can reach both your power & budget goals.
Re: How Much Should This Cost?
Doesn't have to be high dollar to be effective...
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Re: How Much Should This Cost?
I have a 498 CI short block for $2350 - 316-761-7208 or kbhemi@cox.net
Motor has all the best parts and with so little use it is and looks like new! Short Block has a Whopping 498 HUGE cubic inches - with Eagle STEEL crank with 4.250 stroke , internally balanced, Eagle H Beam rods 6.385 (+.250), JE SRP small dome forged pistons, BBC std deck 454 block with arp studded mains bored 4.320. This is a super Pro street Motor - depending on your heads compression ratio is around 10.3. NOW if you ever wanted a BIG pump gas motor OR something you can hang a blower on - or turbo - this is it. Its assembled and ready to go with new Mellings HV oil pump - no oil pan, cam or lifters - but I can easily handle installation of anything - mild to wild - $2350 for 498 CI of BBC
Motor has all the best parts and with so little use it is and looks like new! Short Block has a Whopping 498 HUGE cubic inches - with Eagle STEEL crank with 4.250 stroke , internally balanced, Eagle H Beam rods 6.385 (+.250), JE SRP small dome forged pistons, BBC std deck 454 block with arp studded mains bored 4.320. This is a super Pro street Motor - depending on your heads compression ratio is around 10.3. NOW if you ever wanted a BIG pump gas motor OR something you can hang a blower on - or turbo - this is it. Its assembled and ready to go with new Mellings HV oil pump - no oil pan, cam or lifters - but I can easily handle installation of anything - mild to wild - $2350 for 498 CI of BBC
Re: How Much Should This Cost?
I have a 496ci that i designed and it made 740hp on the motor with 10 to 1 compression and aluminum GM heads> I HAD NO WHERE NEAR 12,000 OR EVEN 10,000 FOR THAT MATTER! You just have to do your research and spend wisely!! My Motor is also nitrous friendly as well so i dont think i am having any problem making 1000hp with it on the spray.
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Re: How Much Should This Cost?
79 Camaro wrote:I have a 496ci that i designed and it made 740hp on the motor with 10 to 1 compression and aluminum GM heads> I HAD NO WHERE NEAR 12,000 OR EVEN 10,000 FOR THAT MATTER! You just have to do your research and spend wisely!! My Motor is also nitrous friendly as well so i dont think i am having any problem making 1000hp with it on the spray.
Young gun
Sounds like you did your homework! Care to disclose the details?
73 Vette, moly back half
Pump gas 496
Two Pro Systems 950's
Chance 6000 converter
Pump gas 496
Two Pro Systems 950's
Chance 6000 converter
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Re: How Much Should This Cost?
It's all in the top secret flat tappet cam... oops... Sorry Adam
Oh hey... anyone guess what time it is? It's 5.70's time ain't that right Adam!
Oh hey... anyone guess what time it is? It's 5.70's time ain't that right Adam!
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Re: How Much Should This Cost?
shhhhhhhh!!!
Yup! Sure is John! Who knows.. It might go 5.69! But we will see.
This new solenoid should help...
Yup! Sure is John! Who knows.. It might go 5.69! But we will see.
This new solenoid should help...
"THE THROTTLE IS THE DEVIL" By Mr. Willis
"ALL I SEEN WAS HOOD!" By Mr. Heard
MAKO RS-1979
Sponsored By:
Total Removal Contracting-Tim Rogers
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MAKO RS-1979
Sponsored By:
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Re: How Much Should This Cost?
79 Camaro wrote:shhhhhhhh!!!
Yup! Sure is John! Who knows.. It might go 5.69! But we will see.
This new solenoid should help...
I went 5.642 at test and tune last night....... With a .082 size nitrous pill arrangement. All I did was change the rear shocks and the gear.WoooHoooo Not far from 5.50's now.....
Blackhoodmafia!!!!
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
1972 Nova SS
572 C.I. BBC
Best to date: 1/8
et: 5.28
mph: 134
new wt. 3340 lbs
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