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Pig or not

#1 Post by 62belair » Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:27 pm

Hi, my name is John Troxell, I'm new to the V8 seen. I just moved to Tennessee from Long Beach Ca, where I used to race a 9 sec p/m turbo 62 bug named QuickDraw. Well I sold the car and just picked up an almost finished 62 "Pro Street"/ back halfed ladderbar Bel Air. The car has a 12 bolt rr, with 4.56 gears, powerglide with tci manual shift valve body and a 4500 stall converter. From what the previous owner told me ( car needs to be wired so I havent fired the motor yet) the motor is out of a 700ish hp alki dragster that had a 780 solid roller but after freshened up now has a 653 lift comp cam, solid roller, 1.7 rockers, brodix bb2 heads holly 950 4150 race carb (not alki) and 13.1 to 1 comp. wiseco pistons eagle crank and rods 6.385. on a 30x19.5 M/T Sportsman street/strip wrinklle wall tire. Car supposed to weigh between 2800 and 3000? I guess Ill try some c12 or Q16 in it, but my question is is this car gonna be a pig or will it put me in the hi 9's at the tracK??? Like I said, this is my first V8, i can build you a 562hp type 1 turbo motor but.....Any help or wisdome is greatly apriciated, im not too old for school. Thanks............THink the motor has around 600HP in it???

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#2 Post by 62belair » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:47 pm

Somebody???

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Re: Pig or not

#3 Post by John_Heard » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:09 pm

As light as it is, sounds like it ought to run what you're hoping for I would think. What size is the engine?

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Re: Pig or not

#4 Post by wheels » Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:13 pm

Yeah I agree with John and was also wondering about the CID. I think at least low 10's depending on how the combination works.

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#5 Post by 62belair » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:22 am

468

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#6 Post by 62belair » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:26 pm

Here is a stupid question, what is a transbreak and do i need one with a 4500 stall and is that a good stall to have :-?

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#7 Post by John_Heard » Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:32 pm

A Transbrake is a modified transmission valve body with an electric solenoid that allows you to lock 1st & reverse in at the same time when you apply power to it, locking the transmission in place. When you let go the button it releases the valve and launches the car. It's a harder launch than foot braking the car, and yeah, typically they are nice to have.

There are two types of Transbrakes, a Pro Tree brake - which is the faster reacting one. For that one you have to apply the brake to back up, and a Sportsman brake which reverse still works normally but is a slower reacting brake.

Unless you're bracket racing in No/Electronics, they don't typically allow them in that class.

4500 stall sounds fine to start with, try it and see how it works.

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#8 Post by 62belair » Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:39 am

Thanks

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#9 Post by 62belair » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:40 pm

i talked to the guy at comp cams and he said that the cam is too small, that it is meant for something with only 10.5 to 1 comp, not 13.1 to 1 what would the draw back be in having more compression???

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#10 Post by John_Heard » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:04 pm

Do you know what the specs are on the cam? How much cranking compression does it have?

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Re: Pig or not

#11 Post by 62belair » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:32 am

Comp cam # 11-693-8
grind # 308a-r10
valve adjustment .020
gorss valve lift .652
duration at
.015 tappat lift .308
48 bydc 80 andc
88 bbdc 80 atdc
instaled at 106* intake centerline
duration at .050 .262
lobe lift .3833
lobe seperation 110

Guy said CPR is 13.1 to 1 cold cranking compresion as of yet ???

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Re: Pig or not

#12 Post by sc68z28 » Sun May 05, 2013 10:56 am

I have a friend with a 67 GTO 468ci, 13:1, NA, 3200#s, runs 9.70s. So yours should too, weighs less.
His cam has more duration with similar lift. I think I would try the cam that is in it first.

Are you coming out to Pomona May 16th -19th for the NMCA race?

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Re: Pig or not

#13 Post by sc68z28 » Mon May 06, 2013 12:43 pm

62belair wrote: I used to race a 9 sec p/m turbo 62 bug
....i can build you a 562hp type 1 turbo motor .....
BTW John, a good friend of mine is putting together a late 60's Turbo bug and may need to pick your brain sometime.
He got the engine/turbo out of a running sandrail, not sure on the details, but it's suppose to make 400+HP.
He has had a transaxle built for the extra power but again I'm not sure on details.
We have talked about the clutch (I'll assume you ran a clutch in your 62) and I know what works with V8 power but have no clue what he needs.

Can't wait to see your BelAir, I had one back in the day.

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Re: Pig or not

#14 Post by 62belair » Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:48 am

Sorry took so long to get back at you, I wish I was in pamona bro, we moved to Tennessee............Long story, but if your friend is still doing a bug, I can give him a KiLlEr combo,,,Let me know.

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