Too MUCH WRINKLE?
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- The ORIGINAL 1320racer
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
What I posted ain't my way, it's FACT!
More importantly, what I've stated here applies to the original poster along with most that post here!
I can assure you that if I spent a day at the track with most that post on these boards...the street/strip, test/tune and wannabe heads up racer crowd, I'd have their car working better and running quicker!
More importantly, what I've stated here applies to the original poster along with most that post here!
I can assure you that if I spent a day at the track with most that post on these boards...the street/strip, test/tune and wannabe heads up racer crowd, I'd have their car working better and running quicker!
Last edited by The ORIGINAL 1320racer on Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:05 am, edited 2 times in total.
1.20 60 foot(footbrake)
8.95 @ 148.69
5.65 @ 119.82
3124 lb. '02 Firebird
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbKYio6OvKM
1.28 60 foot
9.89 @ 134.93 n/a
6.26 @ 109.40
3870 lbs.
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
Your comments are facts that work for you, and your car.
However it's also a fact there are other methods that work just as well, it's up to the individual racer to decide what the best method is for their setup.
On this site I encourage everyone to share what's working well for them, but it's not cool to run down people that have different opinions.
However it's also a fact there are other methods that work just as well, it's up to the individual racer to decide what the best method is for their setup.
On this site I encourage everyone to share what's working well for them, but it's not cool to run down people that have different opinions.
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
WRONG, the FACTS that I have posted works for EVERY car that I tuned, every competitor that I've helped and every poster that has asked for my help online for nearly 10 years!
You too John, should talk about what you know, not what you think you know!
These are the comments you should concern yourself with
I don't care about opinions, myth, rumor, hearsay or marketing, I offer The FACTS and the TRUTH, PROVEN on the track from nearly 2 decades racing and over 4000 passes!
You too John, should talk about what you know, not what you think you know!
These are the comments you should concern yourself with
NOT the 1st hand free advice I offer.supernova wrote:I guess you don't kknow everything.
I don't care about opinions, myth, rumor, hearsay or marketing, I offer The FACTS and the TRUTH, PROVEN on the track from nearly 2 decades racing and over 4000 passes!
1.20 60 foot(footbrake)
8.95 @ 148.69
5.65 @ 119.82
3124 lb. '02 Firebird
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbKYio6OvKM
1.28 60 foot
9.89 @ 134.93 n/a
6.26 @ 109.40
3870 lbs.
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
Here's a fact for you... This is my site and I make the rules. You can either get along with everyone, or you can leave, it's your choice.
I'd prefer that you stay and learn to get along, you do in fact have a lot of experience with your car/s, but if you're not going to be respectful of the other members on here then I'll have to ask you to leave. Again, it's your choice...
I'd prefer that you stay and learn to get along, you do in fact have a lot of experience with your car/s, but if you're not going to be respectful of the other members on here then I'll have to ask you to leave. Again, it's your choice...
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
Again you are WRONG making assumptions/statements about my knowledge!
As to respect, it is a 2 way street and comments like this one...
As to respect, it is a 2 way street and comments like this one...
get none from me!supernova wrote:I guess you don't kknow everything.
1.20 60 foot(footbrake)
8.95 @ 148.69
5.65 @ 119.82
3124 lb. '02 Firebird
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbKYio6OvKM
1.28 60 foot
9.89 @ 134.93 n/a
6.26 @ 109.40
3870 lbs.
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
While I am sure what you suggest will help to some extent, I do have a couple of questions for you Ed. The cars that you help, are they small tire cars or big tire cars? Also in the original posters pic, did you happen to put any consideration into the wheel width? I am not trying to get into a p'sng contest nor, am I trying to slam you, obviously you know what you're talking about. But as John said, there are other ways of doing this. Or maybe other things that should be considered.
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62-67 Chevy II tubular A-arms.
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
David, my expertise is with small tire cars having raced a stock/bolt-on suspension Chevelle for nearly 20 years.
However my comments regarding tire pressure and rim screws applies to the typical 3000+lb., 8.50 and slower back halved big tire cars you'd find at tracks across the country bracket racing, index racing on any given weekend.
That said, in my 1st reply, I stated and qualified that the OP ...johnh might need more air pressure.
What he doesn't want to do is run them with less like "supernova" who without question was running this tire on his car and with his power/combo underinflated!!
However my comments regarding tire pressure and rim screws applies to the typical 3000+lb., 8.50 and slower back halved big tire cars you'd find at tracks across the country bracket racing, index racing on any given weekend.
That said, in my 1st reply, I stated and qualified that the OP ...johnh might need more air pressure.
What he doesn't want to do is run them with less like "supernova" who without question was running this tire on his car and with his power/combo underinflated!!
Last edited by The ORIGINAL 1320racer on Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:44 pm, edited 2 times in total.
1.20 60 foot(footbrake)
8.95 @ 148.69
5.65 @ 119.82
3124 lb. '02 Firebird
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbKYio6OvKM
1.28 60 foot
9.89 @ 134.93 n/a
6.26 @ 109.40
3870 lbs.
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
See that wasn't so hard was it Ed? I just witnessed a nice, respectful reply to David - I knew you could do it if you wanted to. Please treat everyone else in the same fashion in the future here, I think you'll find most everyone will reciprocate.
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
David didn't say..
Further, David has real experience and builds race cars as you know and recognized from my replies my experience/knowledge!supernova wrote:I guess you don't kknow everything.
1.20 60 foot(footbrake)
8.95 @ 148.69
5.65 @ 119.82
3124 lb. '02 Firebird
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbKYio6OvKM
1.28 60 foot
9.89 @ 134.93 n/a
6.26 @ 109.40
3870 lbs.
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
Ed you need to recognize that most of the people here on this site DO have real experience, build and fabricate their own race cars, engines, etc, however nobody cares for your smart ass attitude.
Take your blinders off and look around at some of these guys and what they have done, or are doing - there's a huge amount of talent on this site and many years of racing experience. You're not the only one here that's been doing this for a while.
If you can treat everyone like you just treated David, then you'll find you will get along just fine.
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
John, please provide the racing resume of "supernova" since he thinks I don't know what I'm talking about, that will demonstrate HIS "huge amount of talent and many years of racing experience."
Be sure to include the number of years he's been racing in competition, number of passes he has made, his on track accomplishments, the cars he's built, the combos he built, their best on track performance, yada, yada, yada.
Include as well his 1099's for winnings from each year he has raced!
That said, I'll put my knowledge, experience, racing resume up against most online that chose to debate my advice!
No doubt there are some that really know that post on the www. but there are far, far more that don't know but think they do with little if any on track experience that recite verbatuum the myth, rumor, hearsay and marketing they've read and/or have been told by another that thinks he knows!
Hell my 12 year old son has more on track experience than many that post on these boards offering advice...
Meanwhile, here's a nothing special footbrake launched 3160 lb. Camaro running a n/a sbc that I spec'd backed by a glide, 10" converter and 4.56 turning 10" tires that too ain't screwed to the rim yet has run a best of 1.27 60 foot...
BTW, I've got more photos aka PROOF, many more!
Be sure to include the number of years he's been racing in competition, number of passes he has made, his on track accomplishments, the cars he's built, the combos he built, their best on track performance, yada, yada, yada.
Include as well his 1099's for winnings from each year he has raced!
That said, I'll put my knowledge, experience, racing resume up against most online that chose to debate my advice!
No doubt there are some that really know that post on the www. but there are far, far more that don't know but think they do with little if any on track experience that recite verbatuum the myth, rumor, hearsay and marketing they've read and/or have been told by another that thinks he knows!
Hell my 12 year old son has more on track experience than many that post on these boards offering advice...
Meanwhile, here's a nothing special footbrake launched 3160 lb. Camaro running a n/a sbc that I spec'd backed by a glide, 10" converter and 4.56 turning 10" tires that too ain't screwed to the rim yet has run a best of 1.27 60 foot...
BTW, I've got more photos aka PROOF, many more!
1.20 60 foot(footbrake)
8.95 @ 148.69
5.65 @ 119.82
3124 lb. '02 Firebird
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbKYio6OvKM
1.28 60 foot
9.89 @ 134.93 n/a
6.26 @ 109.40
3870 lbs.
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
Ed have you ever noticed the guys that really are good at what they do seldom boast about it? Unlike yourself, they don't have anything to prove to anyone.The ORIGINAL 1320racer wrote:John, please provide the racing resume of "supernova" since he thinks I don't know what I'm talking about, that will demonstrate HIS "huge amount of talent and many years of racing experience."
Be sure to include the number of years he's been racing in competition, number of passes he has made, his on track accomplishments, the cars he's built, the combos he built, their best on track performance, yada, yada, yada.
Include as well his 1099's for winnings from each year he has raced!
That said, I'll put my knowledge, experience, racing resume up against most online that chose to debate my advice!
No doubt there are some that really know that post on the www. but there are far, far more that don't know but think they do with little if any on track experience that recite verbatuum the myth, rumor, hearsay and marketing they've read and/or have been told by another that thinks he knows!
Hell my 12 year old son has more on track experience than many that post on these boards offering advice...
Meanwhile, here's a nothing special footbrake launched 3160 lb. Camaro running a n/a sbc that I spec'd backed by a glide, 10" converter and 4.56 turning 10" tires that too ain't screwed to the rim yet has run a best of 1.27 60 foot...
BTW, I've got more photos aka PROOF, many more!
What is it you're wanting to prove to the members here? and why?
Do you truly believe you're the smartest Drag Racer on this planet? How would you like to play a game of "Let's Stump Ed" - Are you game?
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
this should be good.John_Heard wrote:Ed have you ever noticed the guys that really are good at what they do seldom boast about it? Unlike yourself, they don't have anything to prove to anyone.The ORIGINAL 1320racer wrote:John, please provide the racing resume of "supernova" since he thinks I don't know what I'm talking about, that will demonstrate HIS "huge amount of talent and many years of racing experience."
Be sure to include the number of years he's been racing in competition, number of passes he has made, his on track accomplishments, the cars he's built, the combos he built, their best on track performance, yada, yada, yada.
Include as well his 1099's for winnings from each year he has raced!
That said, I'll put my knowledge, experience, racing resume up against most online that chose to debate my advice!
No doubt there are some that really know that post on the www. but there are far, far more that don't know but think they do with little if any on track experience that recite verbatuum the myth, rumor, hearsay and marketing they've read and/or have been told by another that thinks he knows!
Hell my 12 year old son has more on track experience than many that post on these boards offering advice...
Meanwhile, here's a nothing special footbrake launched 3160 lb. Camaro running a n/a sbc that I spec'd backed by a glide, 10" converter and 4.56 turning 10" tires that too ain't screwed to the rim yet has run a best of 1.27 60 foot...
BTW, I've got more photos aka PROOF, many more!
What is it you're wanting to prove to the members here? and why?
Do you truly believe you're the smartest Drag Racer on this planet? How would you like to play a game of "Let's Stump Ed" - Are you game?
Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
I have to laugh at this.
Dude, I have no, none, notta, when it come's to your experience. I bow to you. So give it up. Still LMAO about this but I'll get over it.
Dude, I have no, none, notta, when it come's to your experience. I bow to you. So give it up. Still LMAO about this but I'll get over it.
Blackhoodmafia!!!!
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et: 5.28
mph: 134
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Re: Too MUCH WRINKLE?
Point is, there is a combination to everything and yes, he may benefit from more air. He may could benefit with a wider wheel to stand the sidewall up. That wrinkle is not excessive but I think you can be a little better with a wider wheel. I do like wheel screws because it makes the sidewall stiffer. It lets you put more hit in the car. A leaf spring car needs all the help it can get.
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Somerville, Al.
256-778-8888
Specializing in 10.5 tire cars chassis, suspension, and components.
67-69 Camaro, 68-74 Nova Tubular A-arms.
62-67 Chevy II tubular A-arms.
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